N6 Limited

Do you think the MTA would do a type of BRT where the Buses get their own row in the middle of the road. But in order to save space, the buses drive on the left so they can share a median for the bus stops?

They still haven't updated their N6 schedule to show which buses leave from a DIFFERENT LOCATION?  This is not rocket science.  Write it in crayon if you have to and post the PDF of the crayon schedule.  They can get a 3rd grader to do it if it's too complicated for them.

They should probably put an "A" on the schedule, like they put an "X" for express.

Too bad the Articulated buses can't be differentiated on the Transit App.

You mean 96th Street, right? If so, did the R160's have a to 96th Street program?

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app

Yeah 96th. I'm not sure what they did, i just saw the alert on my phone

Delays  Posted: 04/15/2017  1:00PM 

Following an earlier incident at Roosevelt Island, , , , , , ,  and  train service has resumed with extensive delays. 

Planned Work 
 Coney Island-bound trains run via the  from 36 St to Stillwell Av

___________________________________________________________________________

There was a northbound train having mechanical problems at Roosevelt Ave. So they had northbound trains running on the to 92nd St and northbound trains running on the to 168th St.

Why aren't the artics loading in the drive-thru N6 loading bay in Hempstead?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7110036,-73.6240533,65m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

It seems like not enough people know about the Artic stop by the Jamaica Bus Terminal. So essentially the artics leave 89th ave empty while people wait for a regular bus to show up at the terminal. Something similar probably happens in Hempstead.

Apparently, the artics don't (Cough cough) have wifi yet?


Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app

I didn't see any "NICE" specific wifi , The unlocked wifi ssid's were Xfinity, Optimum and one from time warner (on Hillside Ave). Optimum isn't usually seen in Queens so I'm not sure if they made a deal with NICE or the Wifi just isn't up yet.

The Artics have 2 USB ports in every row between the seats.

From the Bryant Park platform, that doesn't seem to be true. It curves on a strange grade, and there's an indentation in the ceiling towards the north where you can hear a ~4 car train go by (the Shuttle). It's raised in the middle, presumably to allow the to go under.

I meant on 42nd street in the 5th Ave station. West of the station the tracks curve to go to 41st street, but I'm referring to the portion on 42nd street.

Sometimes when waiting at 5th Aave on the I hear and feel the 42nd street Shuttle going by. What is the profile of the area around Bryant Park, is it built like a 6 track line with a wall between services?

Keep in mind it's a holiday week and NCC is closed, so ridership is down. That said, I can easily see the n1 being cut back to Elmont if NICE buys some more artics - perhaps enough to cover 2/3 of the n6?

 

The overlap between n1 and n6 in Nassau County is less than 10 stops.

Those 7-8 stops are probably the most used N6 stops in Nassau (besides the Hempstead Bus Terminal). I even overheard a B/O say that his westbound runs are fine until he hits Elmont Road, then he's slammed to the county line (flagging happens at Sterling Rd, Locustwood Blvd and Wellington Rd).

Even for Eastbound trips the buses can be PACKED (and flagging) from Queens, but after Elmont Road there's breathing room. I've seen FULL buses drop up to 50% of riders by the time it passes Elmont Rd.

They can try to cut the N1 rush hour trips, but they better make sure it makes connections with the Artics and not have people waiting at Elmont Road for 20 mins because of late N6 buses when they could have been at the Subway.

Actually, now that I think about it the N1 sometimes picks up passengers along Hempstead Turnpike that N6's flag, or sometimes there is a gap in service for whatever reason and the N1 picks up the slack. Otherwise, as each min goes by and more and more people are are arriving, the N6 drivers look at the stop, and make this face:   and keep it moving to Queens. I've seen 10 people waiting at Locustwood Blvd alone. This is also why it was such a disaster when they removed Locuswood Blvd from the N6 Limited

Do you think they'll start increasing N6 headways with each new pick since they have the Artics? like from 10 mins, to 12 in the summer, then to 15 in the fall?

The projects that could be done easily, were done quickly. The bigger projects were "delayed" until the end of time (or in the case of the Second Avenue Subway, probably to the end of the 21st century).

I was thinking about the 1968 plan too, and it looks like the Pelham line north of Hunts Point would have just connected to the 2 Av line instead, but below ground, with two underground stations at Hunts Point (one being the new Pelham terminus).

 

1) Probably, though it would be more than inefficient given the different signaling systems, train widths, and tripcocks on each division. This setup is already done in Philadelphia (Market-Frankford and trolley), London, and even Tokyo.

2) Yes, that's what the uses to turn.

Honestly if the MTA stopped wasting money and letting contractors bilk them, they could get the Utica Ave and 3rd Ave-Bronx lines built as well as the extension of the Nostrand Ave Line, etc.

The tail Tracks dip under Bronx Park? Do they reach Burke Ave? 

This morning service was suspended around 11am on Hillside Ave due to an "Unauthorized Person on tracks" at 169th street.

The IND intended for this to happen with the Concourse line. However, as the Jerome Ave line remained as popular as ever, even after the opening of the nearby IND line, those plans were eventually dropped. Remember, Jerome had direct access to the east side whereas Concourse provided a direct link to Central Park West, 8th Avenue and eventually 6th Avenue.

Could they have made the Concourse line a hybrid 4 track line with the IRT Local and the IND express or vice versa?

Are there tail tracks beyond 205th street?

Yes. Better connections are a requirement and frankly the is so popular, it kinda deserves them IMO.

The should be connected to the at Broadway 

TO ANYBODY WHO TOOK THE n6 TO/FROM JAMAICA

 

where does the bus terminate and turn around because I can't imagine it simply goes into the terminal and "reverses out"

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app

I took the bus to Jamaica, we were let off at 89th ave and Merrick Blvd. I didn't watch where it went from there.

Judging by that map, Lex service would've probably looked like this:

 

Lexington Express - Jerome

Lexington Express - Dyre

Lexington Local - Nereid

 

2nd Av takes over Pelham and 3rd in this scenario.

Weren't they going to tear down the Jerome line?

I saw a couple of the Artics today in Queens.

The n1 runs too close to the Nassau/Queens border to be an effective inter-Nassau route 7 days a week. Based off my experience with riding the n1 on Sundays, it usually gets slightly more people between Elmont and Green Acres, but not by much. Most of those riders in Elmont are usually coming from the n6, with a few who live South of the Cemetery and off Central Avenue. I'm not sure how many people South of the Mall take the n1 because I've never had a need to get to Hewlett from Green Acres. Ridership on that route always seem so low compared to the large amounts of people waiting for the Q5 or Q85 by Macys. The main issue is that Hewlett Bound n1 buses tend to leave right on schedule, even if the Jamaica bound n6 arrives at Hempstead Turnpike/Elmont Road and the light gives the passengers time to cross the street to catch the bus.

To be fair, the Q5 and Q85 serve more dense areas, Rochdale Village, Jamaica, and the Subway.

Here is the schedule for the n6 Articulated. I found it on NICE's Facebook page

What about from Jamaica?

The new schedules start the 9th (Sunday), but the artics are probably only gonna be used on weekdays

Nice photos! I like how the back looks, but my only concern is the doors and how there isn't a middle one.

Wow I didn't even notice that.

There’s another option: build the lower level for 4 tracks with the 2 Avenue tracks using the outer track ways and then sink the 6 Avenue express tracks to the lower level and turn the upper level into a full-length mezzanine. If the grade will be too steep, they can shift the station down a little more to the south. Hopefully, this operation gets folded into the next Manhattan Bridge closure (north side).

It may be too steep, doesn't the incline to the bridge begin on the south end of the station?

The boring was done in well under 2 years. It was the cut and cover stations and cut and cover launch box that took all of the time. 

But look how deep it is.

Ah, yes. The poor minorities can live without a park for a decade give or take a few years, since they're all going to get gentrified away anyways by the new subway line. (If you think I'm being facetious, Phase I took ten years from the first shovel in the ground.)

 

The buildings along Chrystie St are so old that building straight up to the building lines would probably effectively destroy them anyways. When was the last time the MTA did serious underpinning work for historical structures?

Phase 1 was tunnel bore'd, this cut and cover work for maybe 7 blocks should not take a decade. 

I think an age restriction because of this is an overreaction, especially since millions of teenagers have ridden the subway by themselves since the early 1900s