N6 Limited

1 hour ago, RR503 said:

I don’t think I understand what you’re asking. Are you asking if you can add trains onto a branch from a main? If so, yes, of course you can  — if you couldn’t there would be no branching in our subway. 

If you’re asking if that is politically feasible, it depends/is complicated. In the RBB’s case, I’d think it’d be possible. 

It would be Ideal, from the standpoint that conga lines would be reduced if one of the locals branches off to Far Rockaway.

I wonder if there was track work on the QBL and all service was local if they could terminate the local trains at Howard Beach or something so that the  and  could run through unimpeded.

3 minutes ago, AdonisDimaggio said:

That electronic screen where you can check the subway map, delayed trains, etc.

Ohh, I'm so used to them being in Manhattan stations I didn't know there was an official name.

20 hours ago, Union Tpke said:

The On the Go Kiosks at Kew Gardens were turned on today.

What's that?

42 minutes ago, Bosco said:

1. The local stations that the  would bypass, especially around Prospect Park, have relatively high ridership.
2. The MTA is waiting until the Culver Rehab is done to even consider it.

This is why Bergen Lower level should re-open to provide a connection before the crosstown diverge.

London Underground's tube system pretty is pretty much separate from the street grid. How do you think NYC's subway routes would have been different if it was build in a similar way?

On the downtown express track at W4th street the T/O punches a button, but there are no switches until Canal St, where they punch again, so whats the point?

Has the MTA studied which branches and/or stations get the most city ticket usage since they started the program?

On 10/25/2017 at 5:57 PM, RR503 said:

Garden City would throw a fit. More likely they keep the hodgepodge they have now. 

FWIW here's a track map of the new Jamaica interlocking: (from here)

Interesting, so even if the Atlantic Branch becomes a shuttle, how frequent would they run service?

1 hour ago, NY1635 said:

Hempstead Trains going to Penn Station full time would eliminate the need to transfer at Jamaica for service to Manhattan. Which is good since the Babylon Branch is usually packed between Jamaica and Penn.

Come to think of it, they might make the Hempstead branch the super local and have all other trains bypass Forest Hills and Kew Gardens.

7 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

It was established a long time ago that the S79 would NOT have off-fare payment, so it is essentially like limited stop service, though it uses some SBS features like signal priority.  It was given the SBS designation for marketing purposes to make the route more attractive, and overall has been much faster than the old S79.

Any NYC bus route with signal priority will be more attractive since buses get caught at so many signals by mere seconds.

3 hours ago, NY1635 said:

The Hempstead Branch will most likely use Penn Station as the main terminal after East Side Access. I can't imagine the folks on Stewart Manor, Garden City, and Nassau Blvd ever settling for their train to terminate at Jamaica. Terminating the Hempstead Branch at Jamaica would only have it only be a LIRR version of the n6.

Most Hempstead Trains go to Atlantic Terminal anyway and most people transfer at Jamaica, it wouldn't make much of a difference.

1 hour ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

Likely discarded. I once saw a bunch of punched tickets on Metro-North seats.  One reason I would love for the  to do away with paper tickets.  Too much waste.

Besides E-tix would you prefer a smartcard?

The SBS receipts are a waste too. I already have an unlimited card, now I have to dip it for a temporary paper receipt.

What do conductors do with the tickets they collect? Are they discarded, or are they used for metrics?

On 10/21/2017 at 2:43 PM, RR503 said:

The Brooklyn trains are being nixed ostensibly so that the LIRR can streamline the interlocking (in reality, they're too stingy to spend on a couple flyovers that would allow seamless integration of BK and PS/GCT flows).

Once that is done, capacity is said to increase by about 40%. 

The only way thru-running would work would be to do actual thru running. Babylon-Trenton, Huntington-Morristown, Ronkonkoma-Long Branch etc. Even then, the commute markets will still be hub/spoke -- the gains will be in equipment utilization and capacity. 

Will this be because of east side access? Most Hempstead Branch Trains use Atlantic Terminal as the Western Terminal, will most go to Penn or Grand Central or just terminate in Jamaica?

Do will MTA do Joint LIRR Metro North tickets once East Side access opens?

On 10/2/2017 at 2:01 AM, WestFarms36 said:

It's very sad how people aren't able to take 1 SECOND OF THEIR PRECIOUS LIVES to actually STOP AND READ a simple sign that says "Pay Before Boarding the Bus." and then wonder why the hell did they get a $100 dollar fine. Like I sometimes feel like going "You Brainless @$$hole the instructions to pay are in your face!" And then they even simply ignore the sign on the Farebox that say "No Fares Collected Inside the Bus." And still dump the MetroCard in the Farebox, I have no sympathy for people who know how to read and later act that they didn't know, and honestly their balloni is what's screwing this country up. They think that by just victimizing themselves and running over to the media is going to stop everything they consider bad. Same people who ask for a free ride while we have to pay to take a ride and then deal with their BS. Taxpayer dollars going into transit filling up more than half of the necessary gap to pay for those freeby @$$holes. We need more enforcement involved with this issue, and people need to stop being a potato and damn take a second to get your face off the screen and read!

Another thing that annoys me when it comes to that is in the summer when people don't read the air vent/hatch instructions It's just too many words, so they open the Emergency Lock as oppose to just pushing the vent up like the instructions say to.

How do you view the service change maps on the MTA site? (the ones that are on the Service Change posters they put up in stations)

On 10/16/2017 at 2:35 PM, MassTransitHonchkrow said:

I was told by a platform controller last June [2017] that CBTC is already on halfway between Hudson Yards and Woodside. I asked as a way to pass the time while the FDNY used jaws of life to remove a family trapped in an elevator and to avoid laughing with a constructive conversation.

Is there a way to reverse-engineer the beacon system for countdown clocks as bat-like sonar so trains can talk to each other, as well as platforms?

It would be interesting if it could be used to tell the Conductor don't be in such a rush to close the doors if the next train is 15 mins away and you see people coming up/down the stairs to the platform etc.

4 hours ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said:

I probably would have also bailed and taken the (4), but at that time the  is awful between 149th and 125th, and a complete nightmare between 42nd and 14th. I think one time in May I decided to take the  from Grand Central and ended up passing 4 or so express trains between 42nd and 14th. I just take the  to the  instead whenever I leave around 8 just to avoid the  ... (granted, it probably wouldn't have been as bad as yesterday.

I also probably could've walked over to the  or , but since I was heading to Union Square that wouldn't have worked out for me.

You could have still transferred at Times Square for the  , or even another walk  from the to 2nd Ave at 96th or 86th for the  .

Maybe because I have an unlimited metrocard, I don't hesitate to make out of system transfers if necessary.  A few times delays have been so bad on Queens Blvd that I've bailed and taken the Q60 to Jamaica (thanks Transit App!)

Or even in system transfers, the QBL had a "broken rail condition" Northbound between Roosevelt Ave and Queens Plaza, (all trains were on one track ) I transferred from the at 42nd st for the  to bypass the congestion and catch the next  or  at Roosevelt Ave.

3 hours ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said:

 

That was an understatement...

 

I had the pleasure of getting stuck in this mess and being late to class, the delays reached as far as the Bronx...

My ran local in the Bronx instead of express (which was fine since that happens occasionally) but we were held at 161st Street for 10 minutes, and again at 145th for 20 minutes when the conductor said we would be going on the  line. We made local stops along CPW, got stalled at 81st Street for 20 minutes, again at 59th for 5 minutes when the conductor said we would be going on the 6th Avenue line again, went one stop to 7th Avenue, and got stuck for another 30 minutes. I finally gave up and walked to 49th Street to catch the (R). On my way to Union Square, I saw a  on the express track probably heading to 96th Street. A 50 minute commute ended up taking two hours, and I think my conductor also mentioned a power outage at Rockefeller Center.

Wow, you have a lot of patience, I would have bailed at 161st for the  (after checking service status of course)  or maybe 145th and walked to Broadway or Lenox

15 hours ago, R32 3838 said:

Oh btw this swap isn't really because of just cbtc. Its politics, take this with a grain of salt but im hearing that people are complaining about the R46's on mainly the line. I have no idea how true this is so again take it with a grain of salt. 

 

 

Btw cbtc isn't gonna be active until the 2020's. 

Also they want R46's on the due to mileage. Its not just because of cbtc, imo the real reason why they want to do this is dwell times and the fact they want the R46's on a part time line ( I wish they can take half of them off the )

75ft cars should not be on the , there are too many sharp curves which makes the route a drag. 

Delays  Posted: 10/16/2017  9:31AM 

 and    train service has resumed with extensive delays following earlier signal problems at 42 St-Bryant Park. 

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It's probably really bad
 

Service Change  Posted: 10/16/2017  8:47AM 
 

No train service between Norwood-205 St and Coney Island Still-Well Av in both directions. 

No train service between Forest Hills-71 Av and Broadway Junction in both directions. 

Southbound trains stop along the   line from 59 St-Columbus Circle to W 4 St-Washington Sq the via the line to Coney Island-Stillwell Av.  

Northbound trains stop along the line from W 4 St-Washington Sq to 59 St-Columbus Circle.  

Southbound  trains are stopping along the line from Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av to W 4 St-Washington Sq. 

Some southbound   trains are stopping along the   line from Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av to Queens Plaza then on the line to Bergen St.

Expect delays on    and  trains. 

These service changes are because of an investigation at B'Way-Lafayette St and signal problems at 47-50 Sts-Rockefeller Ctr.

Allow additional travel time.

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Then, the same post but new reason:

Service Change  Posted: 10/16/2017  8:56AM 

These service changes are because of signal power issues at 42 St-Bryant Park

1 hour ago, Truckie said:

Not sure of the exact reason but heard it was something on NJT's end.  Crew scheduling on MNR's side was covered on the extra list.  I don't know how NJT handled their scheduling.  It was their rolling stock used .  Might have been something with equipment cycles.  Again, can't say for sure.

So when through trains are used crews are swapped at state lines?

1 minute ago, RailRunRob said:

It's all technically possible the infrastructure's in place. All politics and ops. 

They'd have to work out pricing between states as well right? If someone wanted to go from Jamaica to Newark Penn, they'd have to decide on the fare structure for something like that right? Would adding the NJT and LIRR fare for the same trip be out of the question?

Do they ever ask riders for opinions on how bus service can be improved?  

1 hour ago, RailRunRob said:

I think so as well..  Logically it makes sense I just don't have the Math to Verify (TPH ect).  I've gotten pushback on the idea mostly on Premise of the East River tubes being at capacity. But in my mind if you added to more two more tubes on the Hudson side. And locked 2 tracks for each direction I don't see the issue.  Take a few tracks out at Penn and widen the platforms that should cut on dwele times.  Where the trains go? Some to Sunnyside , Jamaica, Huntspoint? Secaucus, Newark Penn? Seems workable again i'd have to understand headways And scheduling I can probably run a simulation from that. 

 

I'm thinking that these trains can replace existing NJT trains between Secaucus and Penn, and Existing LIRR trains between Penn Station and Jamaica, it'll be a more efficient use of track capacity. Run the thru service, and people can make connections to whatever branch they need at the normal transfer points. I mean if using Secaucus as a terminal is a problem they can they can have a train go from Trenton to Jamaica, or say a "Beach Train" in the summer that goes from Bay Head, NJ on the North Jersey Coast Line to Long Beach, NY

4 hours ago, RailRunRob said:

Grand Central dynamics wise is terminal station wouldn't it be easier to know where your assets are im taking a guess here but are trains are fixed? On the tracks, they come into beside maybe rush with stock in storage needing to flow in? GC also has more than double the tracks. Penn really is a pass thru Station wouldn't that affect operations abit? Flexibility, predictability to assign accurately Further ahead? Just wondering.

Would it make sense for the LIRR and NJT to run Joint train service between say Secaucus and Jamaica? This way the LIRR can save on running time by just making connections in Jamaica and NJT in Secaucus (I guess they'd need a diesel to do that?)

Which brings up the question (which I'm sure has come up before) Why doesn't the LIRR switch to catenary? Cost?

7 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

Yes that definitely helps as it cuts down on waiting and lowers your commuting time. That's something I used to not think about that I definitely factor in now. Reaching some subway stations for me is at least a ten minute walk, then there's the dodging of a thousand people just to get to the platform. You eliminate all of that if you can board where there are exits with less pedestrian traffic. With the train time apps, you can even check beforehand so that you board a few minutes before the train is due to leave. It's really beautiful. 

The train time app is really helpful, one day the train was running a few mins late, so I was able to catch a train I otherwise would have thought I missed and not attempted to catch.